“I do think a good conversation requires [a duration of two, three, four, five hours], and I've been thinking a lot about why. I don't think it's just about needing the actual time of three hours to cover all the content. I think the longer form, with a hypothetical skilled conversationalist, relaxes things and allows people to go on tangents and to banter about the details, because I think it's in the details that the beautiful complexity of the person is brough to light.”