“So the way I think about the problems-- this is kind of a definitely a computer scientist way to think about the problem-- is to think about the robot as a transducer, as some kind of a system that's connected up to the world. And it makes observations of the world. And it takes actions that change the state of the world. And presumably, there's some objective, right? We want to take actions that change the state of the world in some way that we think will be good.”