“Let's start together, you with the computer I at Hand [...] he hadn't started yet while I had already finished, and it was a very simple thing [...] the younger and more skilled they are, the less they have interest in drawing in Hand. I believe that today with information technology, you have great means at your disposal, of course there are databases left, it is not from there that a project comes out; culture is something else ... the risk is the loss of the gesture”